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关于 Switch 2 破解的猜测

Speculations about Switch 2 hacking

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Gbatemp 论坛用户推测,Switch 2 基于 Switch 硬件且 2018 年补丁后仅能靠 modchip 破解,最可能仍通过 modchip 被破解。用户据泄露 SDK 传闻称其 bootrom 以 4 个较小 BCT 替代原有单个,并认为受 NVN 2 API 限制前 2 年无法被模拟器模拟。

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KeeperCP1

So far we know the Switch 2 is directly based on Switch hardware and is even backwards compatible with the previous gen.
With the great patching of 2018, only way to mod a patched Switch, Lite and Oled is thru a modchip.

Of course, with new hardware comes new measures against modding. Would be funny if they unintentionally brought back the paperclip jig but of course it would never happen and + if it DID happen you can't just trigger it because the Ounce's joycons don't use sliding rails to connect, rather they seem to use extra plugs. (The future, wow!)

So far exploits are nothing since it just got announced. I'm betting on modchip.

But if it DID get hacked, then it would be Gamecube all over again, so i'd except some kind of Nintendon't-esque homebrew that runs Switch games... which would easily be redundant because of the capability to keep digital old switch games, so maybe we'd get an app to install Switch 1 NSPs
And we could probably develop something to run Switch 1 homebrew? Either natively or thru some kind of layer

Oh and emulation. Being based on the previous Switch, i was at first thinking you just edit Ryujinx source code and voila. But...
Much like the rest of the 9th gen i wouldn't except emulation just yet. I mean, our only known spec is that apparently our little Ounce has twelve gigs of dedotated wam, and most computers have like 16 gigs, with operating systems using up some of the ram. The Legion Go 2 will have a 32 gig option and is said to be really powerful with the Z2 Extreme CPU. So it would be at least plausible unlike PS5 or Xbox Series. (The xbox one isn't even modded yet! Whaddya except from Mr. Windows)
But with Big N attacking everybody i'd safely recommend keeping it private for now

Since this is a thread about purely speculation, i'd decide this would be the go-to thread for Switch 2 modding guesses

Last edited by KeeperCP1, Jan 16, 2025

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Kioku

Kioku

Much like with the Switch 1, there is a high probability of an exploit being found. Whether or not it is publicly shared is an entirely different question. Safe money is on a mod chip.

I said this in 2017 as well, but nothing is unhackable. Much less unmoddable. It depends on the willpower of those who are capable.

Last edited by Kioku, Jan 16, 2025

M7L7NK7

linuxares

Much like with the Switch 1, there is a high probability of an exploit being found. Whether or not it is publicly shared is an entirely different question. Safe money is on a mod chip.

I agree it most likely will be via a modchip if found.

KeeperCP1

I also say modchip's the most plausible theory for me because the 2018 patching already happened

RedColoredStars

In before Switch 2 initial ban wave. "My neighbors little brothers hamster accidently connected online and I got banned. Is there method to unban yet????? Puh-lease haaaaaapl!!!!"

JayPea

I wonder how many people will buy one and keep it boxed on v1.0 only to be opened when it's exploitable. I know at least one person that will do that...

Last edited by JayPea, Jan 17, 2025

CompSciOrBust

I wonder how many people will buy one and keep it boxed on v1.0 only to be opened when it exploitable. I know at least one person that will do that...

I will be pre-ordering multiple. At least one will be staying in box. I'm thinking about keeping a few stored away to sell (at retail price) to potential homebrew devs if a low firmware softmod is ever released.

Edit: Also there are several theoretical hard mods that can work on current gen Switch hardware. No one has ever bothered to implement them because they have no advantage over glitching the BCT signature check. I'm hoping at least one of them will make it into the Switch 2. Possibly not though. Rumour is the Switch 2 bootrom has lockstep instructions and we know for sure that it replaced the single BCT of the Switch with 4 smaller ones, which means that part of the bootrom has been rewritten.

poughstings

So far we know the Switch 2 is directly based on Switch hardware and is even backwards compatible with the previous gen.
With the great patching of 2018, only way to mod a patched Switch, Lite and Oled is thru a modchip.

Of course, with new hardware comes new measures against modding. Would be funny if they unintentionally brought back the paperclip jig but of course it would never happen and + if it DID happen you can't just trigger it because the Ounce's joycons don't use sliding rails to connect, rather they seem to use extra plugs. (The future, wow!)

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Oh and emulation. Being based on the previous Switch, i was at first thinking you just edit Ryujinx source code and voila.

Maxwell -> Ampere w/ exclusive hardware block(s?) & NVN 2 API, no way its getting emulated within the first 2 years.

Rumour is the Switch 2 bootrom has lockstep instructions and we know for sure that it replaced the single BCT of the Switch with 4 smaller ones, which means that part of the bootrom has been rewritten.

Source?

linuxares

Maxwell -> Ampere w/ exclusive hardware block(s?) & NVN 2 API, no way its getting emulated within the first 2 years.

Source?

Source is behind the scene things from leaked sdks

poughstings

Source is behind the scene things from leaked sdks

Is it actually real?

Mnario9902

Since Nintendo clearly hates us modding their consoles I feel like they double checked everything so we don’t mod them.i do think we will find a way at some point but it might take awhile.

ChronoCrossfangirl2002

the modchip is probably the most realistic outcome imo, Nintendo has no doubt been onto console modding
way more than usual because throughout the 3DS lifespan all they really did was patch exploits via updates
and ban users online, it was only for the switch where they took things a step further by outright patching
exploits with new models of the switch, which wasn't present with the 3DS or even the wii funny enough.

though i wouldn't rule out an exploit all around as i wouldn't be surprised if someone found some goofy shit you can do with the magnet-cons for an exploit.

Mnario9902

the modchip is probably the most realistic outcome imo, Nintendo has no doubt been onto console modding
way more than usual because throughout the 3DS lifespan all they really did was patch exploits via updates
and ban users online, it was only for the switch where they took things a step further by outright patching
exploits with new models of the switch, which wasn't present with the 3DS or even the wii funny enough.

though i wouldn't rule out an exploit all around as i wouldn't be surprised if someone found some goofy shit you can do with the magnet-cons for an exploit.

The most possible is the modchip but honestly I also wouldn’t rule out the magnet cons for some dumb extremely complicated way of modding it. I feel like we will find a way to mod it using the cons first then we will get a mod chip.

linuxares

Is it actually real?

They might changed things since, so its not final until people start poking at it.

urherenow

It's hard to protect against hard-mods. The most evil thing to do would be to bury the cmd, clk, or dat0 line (or all 3) in the 3rd layer of a 4 or 5 layer board, with another trace that runs right over/under it on different layers. To prevent kamikaze...

I agree it most likely will be via a modchip if found.

Even though I'd much prefer for a softmod to be possible, being realistic I'm going to have to agree w/ your post.

linuxares

Even though I'd much prefer for a softmod to be possible, being realistic I'm going to have to agree w/ your post.

So do I, but I'm just being being realistic since how secure the Switch were.

KeeperCP1

guys i am afraid by posting this i made nintendo aware about the possibility of a mod and now they're ironing out all chances against a modchip to function

Reploid

I hope it'll be hacked, since unhacked consoles are restrictive and boring

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